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that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking hands with the prime minister of israel and sealing this peace treaty between these countries, this president of egypt, the handshake was in march of 1979. two and a half years later, he was assassinated. how did he come to be assassinated? it came from this guy. this guy right now is in prison in the united states in a federal prison complex in north carolina thanks to his role in the first bombing of the world trade center back in the '90s. after he called for the assassination, who made the peace deal with
that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking...
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as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak, very much aligned with u.s. and israeli interests. he was willing to turn a blind eye to israeli aggressions as they described it in gaza so long as he could secure the support of the u.s. and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily
as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak,...
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the last thing egypt needs at this point is for hamas, in a sense, to dictate egypt's future at a time when they have a collapsing economy. >> you and i have watched this before, 2008, as it ticked towards a ground invasion there in gaza from israel. what's different this time around that you see from your opinion? >> well, i think what's different is that on the one -- well, several things are different. we have a different egyptian government. under mubarak, that government was nodding and winking at the israelis and encouraged them to go in and basically finish hamas. obviously, we have a very different egyptian government this time. israel also has the experience of having gone into gaza, knows it's easier to get into gaza than it is to get out. by the same token, there's a reality. israel is not going to accept a situation where a major part of its population has to be living in shelters. one of the reasons israel is acting right now is they're basically sending the message to hamas that if you are not going to re-establish calm, and in a way where we don't have to face the prospe
the last thing egypt needs at this point is for hamas, in a sense, to dictate egypt's future at a time when they have a collapsing economy. >> you and i have watched this before, 2008, as it ticked towards a ground invasion there in gaza from israel. what's different this time around that you see from your opinion? >> well, i think what's different is that on the one -- well, several things are different. we have a different egyptian government. under mubarak, that government was...
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last week's egypt prime minister visited with them and promised egypt's support and promised their actions would not go unnoticed. palestinian leaders have upped their demands in negotiations calling for the end of israel's five-year blockade on gaza and also calling for a pledge by israel not to fire on the territory again and an international deal ensuring that israel would keep its word. but back in the united states senator john mccain called for the u.s. to offer its own mediator to try to bring out a permanent truce. >> the united states of america has got to push as hard as we can to resolve this israeli/palestinian issue. so many events hinge on making that process go forward. find someone even as high ranking, frankly, as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker, but we have a lot of work to do to regain some credibility because we're crumbling all over the middle east. >>> any moment now president obama is set t
last week's egypt prime minister visited with them and promised egypt's support and promised their actions would not go unnoticed. palestinian leaders have upped their demands in negotiations calling for the end of israel's five-year blockade on gaza and also calling for a pledge by israel not to fire on the territory again and an international deal ensuring that israel would keep its word. but back in the united states senator john mccain called for the u.s. to offer its own mediator to try to...
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he is speak together leaders of egypt. he is hoping that the government of qatar, turkey, that they can convince them to stop with the rockets and hopefully they can have an effort to achieve a long range solution. that's going to be very, very difficult as all of us know. but the prime minister of israel, he says 30,000 ground forces have been activated, they are in training exercises, not far from gaza and they will go in as brutal and ugly as that might, they don't want to do that because it'll cause an enormous amount of pain. israelis had a poor experience under gaza four years ago. and again with hezbollah forces. they don't want to do that but the prime minister feels he has no choice. the next 42 hours will be critical and i say there is a 50/50 chance after diplomatic cease-fire. >> wolf blitzer, thank you. >>> be sure to join wolf blitzer monday, 4:00 p.m. eastern, for "the situation room," a special edition live from jerusalem. >>> a peace effort under way it stop the violence. egypt working to reinstate a cease
he is speak together leaders of egypt. he is hoping that the government of qatar, turkey, that they can convince them to stop with the rockets and hopefully they can have an effort to achieve a long range solution. that's going to be very, very difficult as all of us know. but the prime minister of israel, he says 30,000 ground forces have been activated, they are in training exercises, not far from gaza and they will go in as brutal and ugly as that might, they don't want to do that because...
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egypt is no run by a dictator, it's run by the muslim brotherhood. should president obama put more pressure on the egyptian government, even threat tone cutoff aid to get hamas to stop firing those rockets? >> he needs to exert every kind of pressure he can to try to make sure it doesn't escalate into a full-blown war between the palestinians and the israelis. whatever that takes. the problem the israelis have is that these rockets are being fired on them from places they can't reach by flying over in the air. they are putting them in school yards where they are surrounded by school children and they are firing them from marketplace that is are crowded with people. israel has a right to protect its self. if sending ground troops in is the only way they can clean out these nests of rockets being fired at them, you know, you can't blame them for doing it. >> all right. let's turn to benghazi. both of you held closed-door hearings this week with top administration officials. and david petraeus reportedly said in these closed-door hearings that while he
egypt is no run by a dictator, it's run by the muslim brotherhood. should president obama put more pressure on the egyptian government, even threat tone cutoff aid to get hamas to stop firing those rockets? >> he needs to exert every kind of pressure he can to try to make sure it doesn't escalate into a full-blown war between the palestinians and the israelis. whatever that takes. the problem the israelis have is that these rockets are being fired on them from places they can't reach by...
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now we're seeing that egypt is continuing to play that role. obviously in public israel has a much different stance than -- i'm sorry, egypt has a much different stance. officials have come to gaza. they have publicly said they're standing shoulder to shoulder with hamas and the palestinian people. they've called israel's action acts of aggression, they've called on it to stop, but they are also playing a very significant role and they are the key brokers now with israel, and as far as we know, they've been sitting face to face with an israeli envoy to hammer out a cease-fire which includes hamas and all the other players in this region. so the u.s. appears to be quite satisfied with what egypt is doing. u.s. has said they don't want to see a ground war while constantly saying that they obviously support israel's right to self-defense. >> and christiane what about the palestinians on the west bank not aligned with hamas. what is the palestinian government saying there? >> reporter: well, you know, again, this whole situation is such an almighty
now we're seeing that egypt is continuing to play that role. obviously in public israel has a much different stance than -- i'm sorry, egypt has a much different stance. officials have come to gaza. they have publicly said they're standing shoulder to shoulder with hamas and the palestinian people. they've called israel's action acts of aggression, they've called on it to stop, but they are also playing a very significant role and they are the key brokers now with israel, and as far as we know,...
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of course, he also spoke with egypt's president morsi, reiterated similar ideas, emphasized the importance of a long-term, more durable solution. he thanked morsi for the role he played in brokering this cease-fire. i'm told by senior administration officials that the president's relationship with mohamed morsi really got stronger throughout this process. so, they're encouraged by that. they are also saying secretary clinton really played a key role in these negotiations, so they are cautiously optimistic. >> two thoughts on that. i mean, obviously, secretary clinton's role, it was, you know, a high-risk decision to send her there. she's managed to come away with a deal. obviously, she and the president deserve a tremendous amount of credit. also this idea of strengthening the relationship with morsi because what i've heard from administration officials is they're concerned they haven't had the leverage with morsi they may have had with the previous head of egypt. are you picking that up as well? >> reporter: absolutely. and i think that was the concern sort of entering this process of try
of course, he also spoke with egypt's president morsi, reiterated similar ideas, emphasized the importance of a long-term, more durable solution. he thanked morsi for the role he played in brokering this cease-fire. i'm told by senior administration officials that the president's relationship with mohamed morsi really got stronger throughout this process. so, they're encouraged by that. they are also saying secretary clinton really played a key role in these negotiations, so they are cautiously...
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taking over egypt after the arab spring. mubarak was an ally to the country for so long, coming out of the camp david accords where sedatesadat was. >> i think from the american perspective egypt is a necessary broker. they consider hamas a terrorist entity. the u.s. does not directly deal with hamas. in order to be a broker between both sides the u.s. necessarily needs to deal with egypt. >> yes well, you know, john mccain we see hillary clinton there. john mccain had another opinion who he thinks should be over in the mideast talking to these people. >> even someone as high ranking frankly as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he would hate me for saying that, but we need someone of enormous prestige and influence to sit down with the parties together and work as a broker. >> when we see mccain saying something nice about a democrat, he has to go and say one more thing. this is john mccain once again. >> if this god-forbid violence escalates, if someone was there brokering the process and bri
taking over egypt after the arab spring. mubarak was an ally to the country for so long, coming out of the camp david accords where sedatesadat was. >> i think from the american perspective egypt is a necessary broker. they consider hamas a terrorist entity. the u.s. does not directly deal with hamas. in order to be a broker between both sides the u.s. necessarily needs to deal with egypt. >> yes well, you know, john mccain we see hillary clinton there. john mccain had another...
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egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic is that when they are higher grade, longer range rockets being smuggled in in the last couple years, you don't have an egyptian partner like mubarak who is going to try to shut down those tunnels. israel has some real concerns and hamas has access to much better weaponry. >> it does. that also gets back to part of the purpose of what the israelis are doing. a, the israelis going after targets designed to destroy this capability that hamas has. so when you talk about collateral damage, it's because a lot of the rockets are put in highly populated areas.
egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic...
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egypt is the main broker. egypt is also in contact with the united states. also, there is turkey's involvement, qatar's involvement, the head of the hamas political wing is also involved. in temz of creating with israel, egypt is the main broker. we understand it has not been confirmed for us that an israeli envoy is at the table or at least has been and is involved in these talks, but the impression we're getting from the israeli side is that they're obviously involved in the negotiations and each side is looking very closely at what the other is proposing. has each side sent enough of a message that they can say, okay, this is it. we've sent our message. we want this and that, and now is the time to get off the military ramp? we'll see. >> you've covered this. when you take a look at this situation on the ground and you realize the israeli government is calling up 75,000 reservists, massing tens of thousands of troops and tanks near the border at the palestinian territory, what does this say to you in terms of a ground invasion? does it seem inevitable? wh
egypt is the main broker. egypt is also in contact with the united states. also, there is turkey's involvement, qatar's involvement, the head of the hamas political wing is also involved. in temz of creating with israel, egypt is the main broker. we understand it has not been confirmed for us that an israeli envoy is at the table or at least has been and is involved in these talks, but the impression we're getting from the israeli side is that they're obviously involved in the negotiations and...
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this is not the old dictator of egypt. this is the new guy. and just one more thing, if you're not too busy while you're considering these matters, while the united states is negotiating how many american troops are going to stay on in afghanistan after the end of our longest war ever, while we're negotiating what's going to happen in that country after 2014 while we're in the middle of those negotiation, the united states senate voted today by a big margin, 62-33, that we would please like to leave afghanistan sooner than the end of 2014. faster. which you will now need to work out with the president of the united states and the pentagon and the afghans and all the nato allies sprinting for the exits there. that's what's on your plate. that's today. do you want this job of sorting this all out? again, that's today's agenda. that's a thursday in american diplomacy. do you want the job of making all those things right? i do not know you, but i know enough about you to guess that you do not want the job of making all of those things right. >> we
this is not the old dictator of egypt. this is the new guy. and just one more thing, if you're not too busy while you're considering these matters, while the united states is negotiating how many american troops are going to stay on in afghanistan after the end of our longest war ever, while we're negotiating what's going to happen in that country after 2014 while we're in the middle of those negotiation, the united states senate voted today by a big margin, 62-33, that we would please like to...
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how significant is it that egypt is playing the shots? >> when it came to trying to mediate the deals, egypt has played a critical role what has changed is the dynamics, the ally of the west and the de facto ally of israel is no longer in power and the egyptians became an entity and that changed a lot of the dynamics and that has changed the way it has been playing out here on the ground. the frame work of what is transpiring here, that is what has changed at this point. most certainly, given the fact that it is a young government, it has in one sense past that first critical test. thank you very much indeed. >> welcome to you. >> thank you for having me. >> can you you outline what you believe the spirit of this agreement to be today? it is an arrangement that has been with the support of the united states and it promises us the people of southern israel peace and quiet. that they no longer have to fear rockets coming in. the promise of the possibility to live a normal life. >> i understand that it promises the people of gaza a better fu
how significant is it that egypt is playing the shots? >> when it came to trying to mediate the deals, egypt has played a critical role what has changed is the dynamics, the ally of the west and the de facto ally of israel is no longer in power and the egyptians became an entity and that changed a lot of the dynamics and that has changed the way it has been playing out here on the ground. the frame work of what is transpiring here, that is what has changed at this point. most certainly,...
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remember, gaza shares a common border with egypt and it's a very important connection. so you get the egyptians, you get the turks, the qataris, maybe the saudis to weigh in and the israelis to provide the space and time to allow this diplomacy to take hold, and maybe, although nobody ever lost money betting against arab-israeli peace, maybe, just maybe, you can get out of this. >> aaron david miller. thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure, don. >>> cyberspace is part of the israel-hamas battleground. ahead, how both sides are pushing their messages on twitter and other social media. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> i want you to take a look
remember, gaza shares a common border with egypt and it's a very important connection. so you get the egyptians, you get the turks, the qataris, maybe the saudis to weigh in and the israelis to provide the space and time to allow this diplomacy to take hold, and maybe, although nobody ever lost money betting against arab-israeli peace, maybe, just maybe, you can get out of this. >> aaron david miller. thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure, don. >>> cyberspace is part of the...
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, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved diplomatically. they were pushing for the success of the diplomatic track while all the time preparing the military track at the same time in parallel in case the diplomacy didn't work. it seems to me particularly having told me earlier today, officials, that this was on hold, any kind of ground offensive to give diplomacy a chance to work, it seems that something must be coming to a head because secretary of state hillary clinton is on the way, as you say. she will be meeting. maybe there will be an announcement when she meets with prime minister netanyahu this evening here. >> it will be a late ni
, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved...
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if he wanted to test egypt, egypt of the may 25th revolution showed itself as a -- the true egypt that we have known as a nationalistic, that we have grown up with it. israel, in all its -- all of its goals, have failed, thanks to god. our brothers in egypt were asked, the whole world asked our brothers in egypt to sponsor account, to the cease-fire, a calm to the situation. thes asked them, everybody went to egypt, you can pressure hamas, pressure the resistance, please, do so, but i tell you, egypt with no honesty. egypt took its responsibility, thankfully, with a complete spirit as a respected state, that the whole world asked them to do its responsible professionally and objectively and at the same time did not forget its arab nation, that is the arab nation and muslim nation that palestine lives through the conscience of egypt. egypt did not sell out the resistance, did not pressure that resistance as some people are saying. egypt behaved responsibly. egypt wanted to end the aggression, but not with any price. on the contrary, egypt understood our requests. through the negotiation
if he wanted to test egypt, egypt of the may 25th revolution showed itself as a -- the true egypt that we have known as a nationalistic, that we have grown up with it. israel, in all its -- all of its goals, have failed, thanks to god. our brothers in egypt were asked, the whole world asked our brothers in egypt to sponsor account, to the cease-fire, a calm to the situation. thes asked them, everybody went to egypt, you can pressure hamas, pressure the resistance, please, do so, but i tell you,...
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and i suspect the israelis are finding the new egypt very different than the old egypt. the old egypt did not see hamas as a brother in arms. they saw hamas as really a very different sort of arab cause. that's president mubarak. and now the president of egypt sees hamas as part of the larger muslim brotherhood movement. so israel didn't have anyone, probably, to talk to. and i suspect the united states was worried that this situation was going to possibly spin out of control. >> and obviously, since that meeting finished, the rockets, as he we said, the worst our reporters have seen. nick, where are we going from here? everyone is talking about a cease-fire. but yet when hillary clinton spoke about it, the united states spoke about it today, they didn't use that word. they used this word i did not understand called de-escalating. here is the secretary of state. >> america's commitment to israel's security is rock-solid. and unwavering. that is why we believe it is essential to deescalate the situation in gaza. >> nick, what does deescalate mean? is that diplomatic doubl
and i suspect the israelis are finding the new egypt very different than the old egypt. the old egypt did not see hamas as a brother in arms. they saw hamas as really a very different sort of arab cause. that's president mubarak. and now the president of egypt sees hamas as part of the larger muslim brotherhood movement. so israel didn't have anyone, probably, to talk to. and i suspect the united states was worried that this situation was going to possibly spin out of control. >> and...
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, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we are. gaza is still very much a war zone atmosphere. although, as you mentioned, it is 9:00 local time so the cease-fire is officially in effect and hearing drones and up to the last minute as you noted but well before that, several minutes before that, a series of explosions as well as a series of rockets coming out of gaza in to southern israel and the question is whether it sticks for the rest of the night. >> obviously, everyone is watching very closely, certainly, in that region and around the world. the people living with
, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we...
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with israel would threaten egypt's economic aid from all across the world. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that egypt receives $2 billion in annual aid from the united states and is also seeking a $4.8 billion loan from the international monetary fund. we need to take a little break from the heavy stuff here. water cooler time. watching vice president joe biden show off his comedic timing, at least the intentional kind appearing in a cameo on "parks and recreation" here on nbc. the show's main character leslie plays by amy poehler gets a surprise engagement gift, the opportunity to meet her number one crush. >> how did you do this? >> called in a few favors. >> excuse me here. >> a few hundred favors, mr. vice president. ben wyatt from congressman murray's office. >> dave told me you would be coming by. welcome. >> you're -- my name just came out of your mouth. >> well, yeah, it did. >> well, this isn't happening. this isn't real. >> no, it's happening. and i'm delighted to have you here. on behalf of the president and myself -- >> oh, mr
with israel would threaten egypt's economic aid from all across the world. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that egypt receives $2 billion in annual aid from the united states and is also seeking a $4.8 billion loan from the international monetary fund. we need to take a little break from the heavy stuff here. water cooler time. watching vice president joe biden show off his comedic timing, at least the intentional kind appearing in a cameo on "parks and recreation"...
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all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the economic imperfect it tiff is trumping the ideological imperatives and that's actually a positive sign for the future. >> with hillary clinton going to the region and with these positive signs that morsi has already put out there and we're hearing different things from israeli radio as well as from al jazeera, what does that signal to you? >> well, i think the most important thing for secretary clinton is to make sure that the commitments that are being made are quite clear. there's no misunderstandings, and it's very important to reinforce those commitments so that the ceasefire that takes hold doesn't turn out just to be a lull before the resumption of fighting. i think that's the most important thing. secondly, i think it's very important that the secretary will not only be seeing prime minister netanyahu and president morsi but also she is going to see president abbas in ramallah. he's been the ac
all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the economic imperfect it tiff is trumping the ideological imperatives and that's actually a positive sign for the future. >> with hillary clinton going to the region and with these positive signs that morsi has already put out there and we're hearing different things from israeli radio as well as from al jazeera, what does that signal to you? >> well, i think the...
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egypt made a positive contribution to realizing the cease-fire, but, yes, egypt has a role also in blocking the flow of smuggled arms from iran. through sudan or libya. both roots pass through egyptian territory before arriving in gaza. >> according to the terms vt cease-fire, the under lying cease-fire, it will be addressed after 24 hours of the cease-fire being in effect. to be clear, if we see no sign of aggression from gaza within 24 hours, issues will be built with immediately thereafter? >> it will certainly be discussed. certainly be discussed. we've had our border crossings open to gaza for virtually every type of material. no food shortage, medical shortage, for certain materials which we call dual use, like aluminum tubing that can also be used to make missiles. that was passed on to nongovernment or u.n. organizations we can trust. a big question about the border between gaza and egypt and the degree to which that will be open as well. >> according to senior obama administration official, it was president obama's two phone calls today that "closed the de deal." is that accurate t
egypt made a positive contribution to realizing the cease-fire, but, yes, egypt has a role also in blocking the flow of smuggled arms from iran. through sudan or libya. both roots pass through egyptian territory before arriving in gaza. >> according to the terms vt cease-fire, the under lying cease-fire, it will be addressed after 24 hours of the cease-fire being in effect. to be clear, if we see no sign of aggression from gaza within 24 hours, issues will be built with immediately...
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but now there are countries of equal importance, syria, egypt, iran, saudi arabia. everybody now has a big thing happening in their country. does that put more pressure now on the leaders of israel and the palestinians to come together and bang their heads together, get a deal done? >> i think so. the world focuses more on 130 palestinians killed, half of them terrorists, than 30,000 syrians, most of them civilians, killed by the assad government, and focus has been taken away from iran, which poses the greatest exstential threat, to the whole region this is a good time to sit down, try to negotiate what everybody knows would be the best solution for both parties it will not solve the hamas/gaza problem. but we can address the west bank problem. >> everybody seems to be nodding. a good moment to leave this for now. thank you, all, very much indeed. >> thank you. >> right back after a short break. e a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep.
but now there are countries of equal importance, syria, egypt, iran, saudi arabia. everybody now has a big thing happening in their country. does that put more pressure now on the leaders of israel and the palestinians to come together and bang their heads together, get a deal done? >> i think so. the world focuses more on 130 palestinians killed, half of them terrorists, than 30,000 syrians, most of them civilians, killed by the assad government, and focus has been taken away from iran,...
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>> iran is competing with egypt. they want to win. their chance is to have more extreme on the outside. so they support not only hamas, but also the jihad. >> islamic jihad. >> islamic jihad in gaza. so the islamic jihad forces them also to be more extreme. one of the problems in gaza is there is nobody to really -- there is a competition among four or five different groups. the sell afterists and the jihad and many other groups and they're competing and iran is supplying arms to all of them. >> so who do you negotiate the cease-fire with? >> look, hamas has to take charge, otherwise they don't have a future. >> can they? >> i think yes. they don't have a choice. not only them, but the others, too. if hamas won't take a position, the people in gaza will say -- to those others, stop it. what are you doing to? there are people in gaza too. and none of us want to see them suffering. it doesn't give us any pleasure. >> we'll have more from wolf's interview with shimon peres in a little bit. among other things, peres has some advice for ev
>> iran is competing with egypt. they want to win. their chance is to have more extreme on the outside. so they support not only hamas, but also the jihad. >> islamic jihad. >> islamic jihad in gaza. so the islamic jihad forces them also to be more extreme. one of the problems in gaza is there is nobody to really -- there is a competition among four or five different groups. the sell afterists and the jihad and many other groups and they're competing and iran is supplying arms...
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egypt was in fear that egypt would end the peace treaty. that is one reason why israel feels it's calibrating carefully the attack on gaza.poised on th of gaz yachlt they're trying this pinpointed air attacks and also attacks from the sea. they resumed the policy of targeted assassinations against hamas leaders. they want very much to end the threat from gaza. but they also do not want a ground invasion partly because of the cost and also because they don't want to alienate egypt. so this is a very dachg us ange moment for this region. >> we know that they have great familiarity with attacks on two fronts. lebanon in the past and attacks from the south. again now with the new conflict that appears to be growing between israel and the golan heights and its border in syria. is there any concern that there may be new issues on the northern front as well? >> well, there is great concern. it doesn't seem too likely at the moment. as a matter of fact, by the way, a few minutes ago, maybe within the last hour, an israeli soldier there was a report
egypt was in fear that egypt would end the peace treaty. that is one reason why israel feels it's calibrating carefully the attack on gaza.poised on th of gaz yachlt they're trying this pinpointed air attacks and also attacks from the sea. they resumed the policy of targeted assassinations against hamas leaders. they want very much to end the threat from gaza. but they also do not want a ground invasion partly because of the cost and also because they don't want to alienate egypt. so this is a...
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we have a new government in egypt. >> is egypt sending back its ambassador to tel aviv? >> i'm not aware yet. i hope they would. >> is that part of the agreement? >> i'm not aware. but i can say the following, we've got a new government in egypt. and we've got an old peace treaty. we want them to go together well. we're committed to maintaining peace with egypt. it serves both sides of cairo and jerusalem. and we want to see that peace treaty strengthened. >> what assurances did you, the prime minister of israel -- you're not the prime minister, but prime minister netanyahu, get from president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton as far as u.s. support for israel as part of this framework agreement? >> we heard and received very strong support from the united states during this whole crisis. the americans were unequivocal. they said the rockets from gaza have to stop. there's no excuse for them. no justification whatsoever. they said in trying to defend our people israel was acting in legitimate self-defense. we heard that very clearly from the american side. but
we have a new government in egypt. >> is egypt sending back its ambassador to tel aviv? >> i'm not aware yet. i hope they would. >> is that part of the agreement? >> i'm not aware. but i can say the following, we've got a new government in egypt. and we've got an old peace treaty. we want them to go together well. we're committed to maintaining peace with egypt. it serves both sides of cairo and jerusalem. and we want to see that peace treaty strengthened. >> what...
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into the tunnels through egypt. that is not new. the nearly three years that i was there, that was a constant subject of discussion and controversy. this is a vast territory, much of it desert. not well policed and governed. a lot of competing local interests. those are contrary to those in some cases here. egypt is under taking a major role here and how they are able to succeed in that goes a long way to how the process goes forward. >> this may be a dumb question, when you are in these rooms, is there yelling or arguments or is it calm and rational? >> in my case, almost all of the di discussions were with one side at a time. there were few occasions of raised voices. the two did not come together. when we did have the brief meeti meetings between the prime men ster and the president, they were tense and straight forward. they made their points both sides. it will be some time before you get a representative in the same room. tough enough to get them in the same room with the palestinian authority which i say is c
into the tunnels through egypt. that is not new. the nearly three years that i was there, that was a constant subject of discussion and controversy. this is a vast territory, much of it desert. not well policed and governed. a lot of competing local interests. those are contrary to those in some cases here. egypt is under taking a major role here and how they are able to succeed in that goes a long way to how the process goes forward. >> this may be a dumb question, when you are in these...
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the historic ties between egypt and gaza in particular and egypt ruled gaza for something like 19 years or so. so, of course, there is a sense of outrage in egypt and anyway, we should remember it was never good between egypt and israel even under mub abak, but what the israelis now miss is sulaiman and the vice president of mubarak. he was tied to israeli intelligence. what kind of proximity and that kind of affinity is gone and what you have in hamas now is the sense that there is an islamist wage in the region and they see the islamist government in tunisia and they look around and see turkey hovering over the region with an islamist government and they feel the wind is blowing their way. >> do you think it is blowing their way? >> not at all because in the end the hamas people would be fooling themselves and the palestinians would pay the price for this kind of folly because the arab world is not going to march to the tune of hamas. the saudi monarchy, if you listen to what's happening and what's coming out of saudi arabia, the only thing the saudi monarch said was we need the rule
the historic ties between egypt and gaza in particular and egypt ruled gaza for something like 19 years or so. so, of course, there is a sense of outrage in egypt and anyway, we should remember it was never good between egypt and israel even under mub abak, but what the israelis now miss is sulaiman and the vice president of mubarak. he was tied to israeli intelligence. what kind of proximity and that kind of affinity is gone and what you have in hamas now is the sense that there is an islamist...
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egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks in this country suspected that he would. >> yeah. and you can bet that the white house is watching that especially closely. i mean the last few days as we just said the president spoke repeatedly with president morsi. it seemed like they were having the start of a good relationship that led to a cease-fire in gaza. that is a good thing from the point of view of the united states. and then the timing of this new announcement is certainly interesting and perhaps questionable because after developing that relationship after getting some international kudos for what he did, he made this move.
egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks...
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this will be pressure from egypt. there will be pressure from turkey and qatar, the three countries that are the most sympathetic to hamas, because don, i think the fear is warranted. it is not the last time we'll see the conflict between israel and the palestinians. hamas is leading the palestinian people to ruin, hamas must be seen to be a rogue regime. because it is under the palestinian national authority. >> i want to go back to something you said about the president's indifference. do you think it would behoove the president to get involved and trying to solve this crisis? is it even possible to find a solution in the next four years? that question is really asked of every president. >> i think you're absolutely right, from truman, if you want the history, to george bush, people talked about solving the crisis. president obama actually kind of turned away from the region, from the conflict. but now there is noise to do what he can do in the second administration, not the first. it always frustrates american pres
this will be pressure from egypt. there will be pressure from turkey and qatar, the three countries that are the most sympathetic to hamas, because don, i think the fear is warranted. it is not the last time we'll see the conflict between israel and the palestinians. hamas is leading the palestinian people to ruin, hamas must be seen to be a rogue regime. because it is under the palestinian national authority. >> i want to go back to something you said about the president's indifference....
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there have always been historic ties between gaza and egypt. egyptians are very sensitive to everything that goes on in gaza. >> many tunnels from egypt go into gaza to get supplies. >> absolutely. in fact, under mubarak it was much easier because mubarak couldn't care less about hamas. this is a very different issue here, because the muslim brotherhood in egypt really is the mothership, if you will, of hamas and other such organizations. but what will the egyptians do. they have recalled their ambassador from israel and they have told their people that look, president morsi is talking to president obama about bringing the fighting to a halt so that's one thing that we can look forward to. one thing that's very important, tomorrow is friday. there has already been calls for massive demonstration, a million people march, in cairo against the israelis. i think this will be the one country and the one theater to watch. >> fuad, thank you. sara, stay safe. thank you very much. let us know what you think. >>> up next, former cia director david petra
there have always been historic ties between gaza and egypt. egyptians are very sensitive to everything that goes on in gaza. >> many tunnels from egypt go into gaza to get supplies. >> absolutely. in fact, under mubarak it was much easier because mubarak couldn't care less about hamas. this is a very different issue here, because the muslim brotherhood in egypt really is the mothership, if you will, of hamas and other such organizations. but what will the egyptians do. they have...
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there is no authority in egypt now. he can override any decision that has been made by morsi and that will be made by morsi. in a way, he is trying to create an imperial rpresidency, an imperial presidency that basically anoints morsi as the supreme lead over egypt, period. he monstrously miscalculated. he has thrown egypt into a political and constitutional crisis. he has finally succeeded in unifying the fractured opposition. now not just the liberals and the nationalists and the leftists. millions of egyptians are outraged in morsi addressing his own office of absolute authority. >> that's the question i have though. this has sparked massive protests as we can see. he is now -- you know, he's standing his ground but he also seems to be giving a little ground. is there cause in your view, maybe from our viewpoint, western standpoint, to take a step back and let this play out a little bit before cle clairing egypt's great democracy is over. is there a chance that by the owned the day there will be a resolution and coul
there is no authority in egypt now. he can override any decision that has been made by morsi and that will be made by morsi. in a way, he is trying to create an imperial rpresidency, an imperial presidency that basically anoints morsi as the supreme lead over egypt, period. he monstrously miscalculated. he has thrown egypt into a political and constitutional crisis. he has finally succeeded in unifying the fractured opposition. now not just the liberals and the nationalists and the leftists....
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both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the firing stops, the rockets stop. and, of course, there is no invasion or anything like that. so that's number one. but number two is the state department explains that it gives space, theoretically, at least, for some of those longer, maybe medium-term to longer issues, like the blockade of gaza, which the hamas definitely wants to stop. those issues might be able to be addressed. so there is kind of, you know, short-term, medium-term and long-term would be peace between israel and the palestinians, but that's very far away. but those are the immedi
both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the...
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but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a statement moments ago saying in part, quote, we call for calm and encourage all parties to work together and call for all egyptians to resolve their differences over these important issues peacefully and through democratic dialogue. jim maceda will join us coming up in 20 minutes right here. >>> turning from egypt now to the border between israel and gaza where a two-day cease fire is already being tested. israeli troops shot and killed a 20-year-old man on the gaza side of the line today. the firs
but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting...
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egypt's role in this conflict growing as many countries tout egypt as the potential peacemaker in all of this. straight to reza sayah in cairo for us. so today, reza, the egyptian leadership met with hamas. a group the u.s. classifies as a terrorist organization. should washington be concerned about egypt's role in this conflict? >> reporter: well, first off, we should point out that at this point it is not clear what egypt's role is in this conflict. it is not clear if what we're hearing is rhetoric or something behind the rhetoric. i think egypt's role will be clearer and clearer in the coming days and weeks. as far as the question whether washington should be worried, it depends how you process and digest all these developments. if someone sitting in washington and they buy into this very fiery rhetoric, sure, they could be concerned. rhetoric has been tough. rhetoric in tough condemnation by mohamed morsi. if you look at what is happening beyond the rhetoric, you can say egypt has not taken any steps that can be viewed as extreme or radical, certainly haven't taken up arms against
egypt's role in this conflict growing as many countries tout egypt as the potential peacemaker in all of this. straight to reza sayah in cairo for us. so today, reza, the egyptian leadership met with hamas. a group the u.s. classifies as a terrorist organization. should washington be concerned about egypt's role in this conflict? >> reporter: well, first off, we should point out that at this point it is not clear what egypt's role is in this conflict. it is not clear if what we're hearing...
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the cover of the egypt daily news website today proclaimed egypt's new pharaoh. a chip off the old mubarak block. and morsi, lincoln in deguise or another mubarak. and the stock market didn't think this was a good move either. it plunged 10%. stocks opened down today and barely moved up by the end of the day. so this new president in egypt in which the united states has placed so much hope, starting to look too much like the dictator he replad and is he the leader of an islamist government that will become more and more extreme, threatening america? on the phone with us tonight, the founder of egypt's freedom party and ed hussein joins me here. ed, i want to start with you. morsi was credited with brokering that cease fire between israel and hamas. it seems within hours, he swept away with all these powers, saying his word will ride over judges. was he taking advantage of his success? >> without doubt, he knew he had enough political capital to make this move and just before, he had signed a deal with the imf for a $4 billion loan program. he thought he had enoug
the cover of the egypt daily news website today proclaimed egypt's new pharaoh. a chip off the old mubarak block. and morsi, lincoln in deguise or another mubarak. and the stock market didn't think this was a good move either. it plunged 10%. stocks opened down today and barely moved up by the end of the day. so this new president in egypt in which the united states has placed so much hope, starting to look too much like the dictator he replad and is he the leader of an islamist government that...